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interest, I had a co-worker that actually bought an ANSIQ 878 and I figured that, you know, if you bought the radio, he would take the time to at least do the technician class to get on and use that radio. Now, his drive is not strong enough to do the diligence of studying. So, it's no big deal. He's had to think for a couple of years. I don't know if he still got it, but I thought he was not as a way to get licensed, but it's not no big deal. It's all on him. So, even when I promote EchoLink to a lot of guys that are already licensed, voice over IP, they say that's not real radio. So, they don't have no interest.