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to this particular hobby. Debbie's a Roa Maia, personal satisfaction guaranteed. Well, I feel the way you kind of feel as far as just talking to anybody about it, right? Because yeah, they won't understand like they used to in older days. But I would say this too, and it's really the truth for radio across the board, right? It's on life support. People aren't gonna just give up on it, right? So it is really on life support. And like ham radio, like broadcast radio, right? Broadcast radio, mind center for that would be to get into people's clock radios and living rooms and dryers and all the rest of it, right? Like I used to be kind of motivated in the 80s and 90s to know I'm gonna get into somebody's walkman, right? They're gonna be carrying me around and listening on headphones on the go or they're gonna listen on their clock radio, right? Now I don't...