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Yeah, Jerry was as mentioning that if, let's see, okay, if you go to his website, actually my QRZ page, Whiskey 3 November tango Zulu, he has some stereo pairs of 3D. And he said, yeah, if you kind of cross your eyes and look at it, I bet, very interesting. He said that if your eyes don't make this into a stereoscopic image, there's something wrong with your brain. I'm able to make it into a 3D image. Check it out, W3NTZ on QRZ, that's Tommy's page. He checked in for the first time with Jerry and Theta on Thursday. Very interesting conversation. So he has a little different take on things where you do your stuff he does, the stereo pairing.