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There were a lot of things that didn't know about the virus back then, what they thought about it. And now the people tend to be upset because it seemed that the people were advising them about the virus, that the prices at the time seemed almost every week they were changing directly about the virus. That was simply because of the science. The novel virus is a new virus, they're learning about it, and they go and learn about their mistakes and build on that. And that's what happens after the pandemic. There's a wealth of information now and databases built up about that virus that's also now helping scientists understand about other viruses that are emerging and those that are still around. So what we were witnessing during COVID was trying to work in real time.

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