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As you can see, as you've probably seen, if you scroll down, there's like this long list of all these different models. So anyway, hopefully you get that working. I've heard you a few times over the last several days talking about it, and I know it's frustrating. KG7 ODD. Thank you, Dean. So if I understand this right, for different models of both things, there may be different best cables. Is that part of the magic? And then even if you've got cable that's recommended for that radio, then you've got to worry about the drivers and your computer being compatible. So I'll come back to you in a moment, Dean, but yeah, so again, what I'd suggest is googling that model radio, and there will be people with comments on what programming