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But are you sure it wasn't Billy and Erdene? 73, W-Zero, XO, Jonathan, and Everett, back to net. OK, well, we'll put that question to Dean when he checks in here in a couple of minutes. And yeah, it's a good idea to have shiny solder. D'all can indicate a cold supply joint, but then I suppose some mixtures of maybe no lead solder is more likely to give you a doll. So the 6040, the standard old stuff with the lead in it, is actually much easier to work with. And as you can see, it's kind of shiny, too. I'm guessing the 6040 is not silver, but it's lead. All right, thank you, Jonathan. Yeah, electronics was lots of fun. I recently, well, not recently last year, I gave a friend of mine a multimeter to use for helping her check for electric stuff.