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I heard in the radio, Amstow still on the road. And my ears picked up, so I went and I said, what radio, what's a radio, and he said, I don't know, he said, but it's the same two people talking when I left the house to come into yours. And they say, Oh, can we have this address so we can find the way it's all about. So Gary gave us this address, there was no problem with it back then. And my wife, I went and knocked this door and explained what just happened. And he said, it's Ham Radio, come into the shack and have a listen, have a look around. And he was a member of the local radio club. And I call us. I was too young to drive. Let me reset.