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J5, JVV from GW8S10. Okay there, Mac, yes, and it was on the Portland break and I think it might have been Ryan's question. I'm not sure. And it was what the question was. How did you discover how many radios, something along those lines anyway. But here we go. Well, I was always interested in radio and I was tuning around to the utility stations, managed to not work out the coal signs where they were without, this is back in the 70s. So no internet, no nothing, no easy lookups or anything. And I found, if I won't be, well, no digital displays obviously, but I won't broadcast radio up on VHF all the way to the top. So the end of the actual string sort of type frequency indicator. And I hear people talking on there just like you and me and coal signs. Obviously I couldn't interrupt them up on that.