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that it was kind of surprising because I do know you like your solo rides on the bike so I wonder how that went if that was safe if that was last week anyway let me throw it back to you one more time and name KGC from GM 0 okay well a couple things Graham the Zellow thing on Windows yeah nothing over here works none of the none of the computers that I have here that we used to use for some ZMR related links and stuff and monitor in the history and all that none of the whether three three computers that I used to use for that at home with the desktop version of Zellow and a couple weeks ago none of them will connect anymore I think two of them get the same error message I forget how it's worded to