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You know two in the morning, two, what were we doing? You know the chicken head knots, I always knew them as rooster head knots or rooster knots and sites from Fender Amps, I love Fender Am. I remember that my grandmother and the wife known as Nana, she had an old nigra vibrator and they had knots that were really long, like much of them like two inches and they were red on the control for you know heat and vibration and they were rooster heads, our rooster head, chicken head. Whatever you'd like to call them, but they were like long.