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I'm turning to the Treasury part, not really managing the people. We have a chair, she's really great. She retired from the State Department of Fish and Wildlife, and was a high up manager there, so she's really good at managing people, which I'm more than happy to pass on that responsibility to her. But I've been doing this since I've been involved with that since 19, we're going to be 98, 99, and I was a chair when I was working, and then when I retired I gave up the chair and then we created this private foundation as a physical agent for the Salmon Recovery Group on the coast. Anyway, it's been fun trying to find new places that we can't, any investment on any
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