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Windows utilities, this part is one of them that will write zeros over the whole disk and that generally does it. The old way was you had to write zeros and then you had to write one and then you had to write one zeros at random and then reformat and that was the only way to really clear a drive out. But today's drives are really efficient and you know we got to do with one pass and they're good. So boy that was bringing back a path last from the past. I haven't had to do that in absolutely years but at the same time I didn't want the elderly people's information getting compromised. Hey how tall the hard drive is, what's clean to mow out and taking the carcasses the best buy and now he's a happy guy knowing that his data is safe. A F7RV back to you then. Alright that sounds great yeah I've got a stack of hard drives up to get probably got a stack of six hard drives from older computers that I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to