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one where I used to work right worked out there Olympic golf and country club there we got a 50 horse chondere and had a big flail maul right there and I could take that thing just go through anything and they would grind it up and we just clear it out just like that blackberries whatever mulch it it was pretty nice of course you can't keep mulw with it too but I'm not interested in the way it will chew up all those little saplings I figured I can clear up tidy up around structures for fire and then work the fence line and then you start going inward you know once I get going I can probably take the front end loader up keep it on there at first so I can move material or debris or obstacles in the way at first and then after a while I just give me a little bit more to turning room take the front end loader completely off K7 C.P.R.