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anyway but yeah that's the way it goes anyway yeah that would be fun and that's a great place to learn as well it'll help you out to get show you how to set it up and all that stuff that was my initial problem with getting FTH that up but it took me I don't know it took me about three weeks just to get a single instance to work you know and then it was another couple weeks to fight with it to get to work and then and then interfacing it with grid tracker and then I led to a contesting where I wanted to get it interfaced with N1mm you know and all that stuff and we just kept plugging away and kept making progress and you know and stuff so and then that led into our key T Y contest thing that's another thing that I enjoy doing a lot