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with an AV and every time I called him and then whenever I be talking I'll be already with him he just gets up and you'll give a repeat. He says that's all the most that I work and then he learned some stuff with me that I show him about cold plugs and that and he has applied it to his work and he says oh that's good and I'm trying to get him interested in getting at least his recognition license but he's like I don't know like hey he's not bad to have just get it just do the best I got the program you can use you can get the ham radio prep program read it to the videos and the best and the practice best and do it yeah but now I was gonna ask you do you have are you interfacing your F.P.A.T. with the array or something like that? no no I go all the icon radios have a USB