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and say oh they're they must be mine there so back then that there and Ray and is a tall, a tall, is coping 50 footer, mine, that's a that's a loose, something to handle as well, can't be W-A-K-7H. Alrighty well seems we've got at least two buck in the area then because this morning I saw walking on the beach a two pointer at least I think you call them two pointers, there's two on each side, I don't know if that's a four pointer, I think every state's a little different, I'm not sure on that, but that means that there's at least two of them out there and more than a few dough so the population I guess is staying reasonably healthy in Kingston depending on your definition of that and very good so next up is W-B-3-A-B-N over to you Ray, K-N-I-P-E-W thank you David and yeah wait what what what what you get this