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Not associating that with a conversation this morning. No, the interesting thing was, you know, we're talking about a distance of 800, sometimes a thousand miles of these FM signals that were only receivable on the surface of the water. And it was pretty much open ocean between where I was on the northern tip of IT to where these stations were in Georgia and Florida. But it was just amazing to me that you lifted up off of that skin effect by just two feet signal was gone. Pretty darn amazing. So much for put your antenna higher the better, but of course that applies to VHF knife edge as well. Exactly. And yeah, it's a very interesting phenomenon and it is very prevalent.