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Because over here at the hot dog stands, most any good hot dog stand here has their hot dogs in the natural casing. But otherwise, I could just go to the factory and go to Vienna factory, and they have an outlet right across the street. And I can buy either a case of Vienna hot dogs with casings or you can go to Delacauner and buy them by the pound. And those are the ones that when you bite into them, there's like a ringing, so it's like a pop. Because I think that natural casing pressurizes the, what do you wanna call that meat inside the hot dog? Because it's, I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's meat. Back to you, Greg. No, the answer to that question is,