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and dipoles on 40 and 80 and that's in 100 watts they can't use amplifiers so it makes it pretty hard off now. Yeah there's a book out I read it oh wow back to and it's I think it's called what is it called contact for it I think anyway it's all about that contact and and these guys these competitors they get really really I read it yes the if one person's got one one team's got like a spot that's a hundred feet higher or lower or something you know when everything isn't exactly the same they all get really snippy and it's a it's kind of a fun read by the way you want to know what you did in the in the VHS contest okay sure I don't I don't know how I got thrown it