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so cool to find another adult loop head. Thanks, John. K-7, A would be. You can even let the ends of a dipole antenna hang down. It really, it doesn't hurt it that much. So I was going to say if the length at the top of the dipole antenna is longer than the two trees, you could probably let it hang down on one side of the ponderosa pine and it wouldn't matter too much. And I would use that rule. I hate to push, push, push, push, push, but the best antenna for you is going to be launching something up on the branches on your side of the fence on those two trees and stretching something in between height makes all the difference in the world. If you can get that up as high as you possibly can, would that look like 60 feet, 70 feet up in the air? If you can do that, holy cow, that'll make a world a difference. And that'll be way better than the delta loop or anything that you put on the ground with a vertical.