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It's not a vertical component and it has a side component component that you actually reel out to the side. I don't know if it makes a triangle or something. You could ask him more about that. Yeah, Boffa Bill is the wire antenna guy and he would tell you everything there is to know about that. W7VAS is his coal sign. You can hit him up on QRS ed and send him a little email or something. I'm sure he would like to help you or show you what's cool. He may invite you over to look at all the antennas in his backyard because he has many and he has lots of trees. So anyway, I'll be clear just looking outside of the clouds here in Chandler, Arizona, where it's currently 94 degrees, which if you subtract it and make it feel like Seattle's in the 70s, I've been out there feels good. Anyway, good day. And our 7L clear on your final. Thanks again for the help Ron. I'll look at it.