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has set up in his backyard and he's shot like 20 radials off his vertical mat. Now, let's go back to the first subject. There is no replacement for height. And Greg, do you live in a place that has trees? A bunch of trees. In fact, the property is pretty much surrounded by trees that are pushing 100, 150 feet high, large furs. Where was going to put the antenna was just beside the house. I have a place where I can mount it where I don't think it will be interfered with by tree limbs. But yeah, there's quite a few trees around here. Back to you. Alright, let me tell you about the best antenna I ever had in my life. It was a G4 AMD Ernie not a J4 AMD, a J5 RB type antenna. I measured it so it didn't come out to be an exact J5 RB.