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whoa that's an interesting id from not this uh repeater okay anyway um i uh so you might actually find that interesting there's another cool thing which is it'll also do cw and um i actually cannibalized a kenwood speaker mic cable from an old db25 serial port which is no longer of any use and i have another um thing to another cable to program that particular radio with so i just took it apart and um it you can uh you have to clip off the smaller of the two uh um plugs and then between the the ground connection or a um sleeve i guess you would say of the two uh plugs you can put a regular cw key and you can actually run the thing on cw so again um it's only five watts but you know with a vertical dipole or a tape measure antenna with a counterpoint or something i suspect that that would work very nicely on a hilltop so you know given given your suffix and your interest in cw you might just like that um kd7mw you know that's interesting yes a lot of radios that's how they uh they you key them is by tying the ground of the i think the mic to the the ground of the audio output is the keying input and so yes it makes sense you would hook a a a telegraph key to tie the grounds for that and uh and i'm looking at the frequency ranges of course um i by the way i got a whole bunch of results when i surfed when i searched surf and search that's kind of similar words aren't they similar concepts uh uk uvk5 uh that's a whole slew of stuff there and uh you know there are in fact uh i can search it now uh oh and here's a problem it's a single side in a cw and if you get just like a regular shortwave radio that's what it really is it's not necessarily good for communications because you need to have very small tuning increments like 10 hertz or one hertz tuning increments and quite often uh to you know they they there are single sideband broadcasts um and sometimes with a partially suppressed carrier that's fairly common um uh it's a partially suppressed carrier single sideband or dual sideband is is fairly common in broadcasting because um uh it's enough uh carrier for uh the receiver to kind of lock onto uh for uh you know to index the tuning to that signal it's also enough of a carrier that if you don't have single sideband the it's still the reception is still intelligible with this plane am and uh