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name, you know what park they're in, you know what their call sign is. So there's, it's the, I always tell people if you want to practice a little bit of CW and you don't feel that confident, you can't get easier than that. You just can't get easier. Because you send your call, you got to be able to send them, kind of recognize your call. You send your call and if they come back to you, if there is a pile up, you send them a signal report. You send them their call and a signal report and you know it gets you a little practice, a little bit of practice on, you know, unlike trying to jump in and have a full bore, you know, conversational CW that, that just, I would imagine that takes a long time to get really good at that. Back over to you Dave, gave me two effects. Yeah, from GW8S that, you're okay there, Cal. Yeah, my CW isn't, isn't too bad but it compared to years ago.