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I've only heard just a little bit of what was going on. But I agree with that. It's kind of nice to know that you stayed in one place all your life. Seemed like we were always up and going somewhere every year or two. It's hard to set down roots and make friends. Everybody in the house did. I don't know where they're at. And they've been alive and dead and successful. And Andy Gaff, I just don't know anything about him anymore. Just don't have that. Your factor of what would you call him? Well, you know what I mean. Just, we travel all the time. We just never really get to get close to anybody. Sorry, that's pretty close. You could do that. I didn't live in this community my whole life. Great chunk of my life. I lived outside it, actually. I moved outside the community when I was 18, got my own place. Then when I finished college and then I did university, I was in between working for the government at that time. And I spent some time over in Africa. I worked over there. And then I was in the UK for a while in London. And then I worked all over Canada and a couple of places in the States over the years, for like 20 years. Well, for about 15 years, I suppose. And it's only really in the last 15 that I ended up back in Newfoundland again. And then about 10 years ago, my grandfather passed away. And my sister was like, the apartment in mom and dad's house is empty. And they'll give you a good rent rate if you want to move back up into the community again. And so I was like, yeah, that sounds good to me. And because I get this place for well below market rate. And I get to live back in the community where I grew up again. So I was away for quite some time. That's why a lot of people from up here I've lost touch with and only started to reconnect with in the past couple of years. When I go to get my insulin in the mornings, oftentimes I run into people that I haven't seen in 20 years. And they all recognize me. But I don't recognize any of them. So then I'd say, well, they know I have bad eyesight anyway. So I just say, you know, I don't recognize you. And they tell me who they are. And I'm like, oh, crap. Make no wonder I don't recognize you. We were kids, like teenagers, last time. I saw you type a deal. And that happens almost on a weekly basis that I'll run into someone I used to hang out with back in school or something like that or people that my brother or my sister was friends with, you know, stuff like that. So but yeah, I haven't lived up here my whole life. I'm only back in this community the last 10 years. But my family is actually five generations in this community. It started with my great grandparents, then my grandparents, then my parents, then myself, my brother and sister, and then their kids. So my kids, my nieces are the fifth generation of my family in this community. We've actually got a road named after us up here. We were one of the first families to colonize this area. Yeah, absolutely. I'll be 45 in January. But yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, most of my life, this is where I went to school to junior high and high school. I did up here. So I mean, everybody that still lives up here, a lot of people have moved away. A good majority, though, have stuck with this community and had their families here. This is a beautiful spot. I mean, other than what was happening up here over the last few months, there'd never been crime in this neighborhood, and there probably won't be anymore. I mean, it was the people, my next door neighbor and the guy across the street that were bringing that drama around here, you know, they were doing stuff that they shouldn't, you know, like criminal type stuff. And they were involved with motor gangs and stuff like that, right? So my neighbor, I haven't said a lot of this on the air, but he's dead and gone now, God rest his soul. But they were involved with motorcycle gangs. And the one he was involved with was rivals with the HA. And they did some things to the HA, and then the HA came back and did some things to their club. And it just creates a lot of drama, like the exploding vehicles in the middle of the night and the 30 gunshots fired at a house in broad daylight, like this is HA stuff, right? And they pissed off some members of the HA, and then there was that accident out on the highway here where a car rammed into a motorcycle and killed the driver. And he was a HA member, and my neighbor was a member of a different gang, right? And they were just blowing back and forth at each other, like jacking trucks belong to each other and stuff like that. You know, one of them was worth almost a million dollars, literally $800,000 of contraband cigarettes, got jacked, and then some vehicles got exploded. And you know, it was just the stuff that they were into. And I'll be here to find out just about anyone, not just in Nova Scotia or anywhere in Canada, in the United States. We got, I don't see very many HA's around here, but there was some non-ducens. And that was a little bit of a challenge. I'm on this, uh... Huh. I hope we're there again. That's the guy I want. I'm the actual leader of the group, and it's a large group of non-ducens. I'm on the down number now. It's been a while since I met him, but he lives out there in Green Valley where I lived. And I was already riding parlors, and I went and stopped somewhere. And the guy came up and started talking to me, and he turned around, and saw us and handled them on the back. And, uh... Then I found out that he was the leader of the group, and the law had to go all over the country. What the hell is your name? I can't remember. I'm sorry. Mongols. Yeah, Mongols. They were the Mongols of the local group, and the independence that was big in the 1980s, they still exist today, but they're just a shadow of what they used to be. But the other group, in fact, they had a paper gene up there in Green Valley, and they rented out this big unity park from the city. And I guess they didn't realize what was going on until I was doing well, but they were actually pretty decent. They didn't do anything bad. But I remember I wanted to check them out, and I wrote in on my early, and as I was doing it in town, they had FBI and police on the side of the road, and they were taking pictures of me. I was just a regular guy. I'm nobody special. I don't belong to the boss or anything like that, but I found that very interesting that they were doing that. But like I said, nothing came of it, and they were actually very well behaved while they were there. Yeah, you'll find out now next time you go to take an international flight or something, and you see Georgia, if you come up flashing on a computer screen. One thing for sure, I mean, somebody could be in a V. FBI, CIA, whatever it is, but yeah, it was the time. I even wear the same outfit. They're very safety conscious, and they have to wear full helmets with visors on them, and I did the same thing. I usually met myself out with lots of safety gear, and so I could see where they might have mistaken me. I didn't have the markings on my jackets or anything like that, but yeah, I could be somewhere in the system. They knew you weren't part of the group. If you didn't have a cut, they knew right off the bat, because you're not allowed to ride without your cut on if you're in one of those clubs and skinned souls. The only time you're allowed to go ride without a cut on it if you're doing something nefarious and you don't want to be identified, but other than that, there's rules, right, for those clubs. You don't ride without your cut. You don't enter the clubhouse without a cut. You don't go to the meetings without a cut. That's your vest with your logos and your standing within the club, right? Your logo is on the back, your patch, as they call it, and then you got on the front, you got your co-patches or something that have like if you're a club president or a gunner or you got the 1% logo and stuff like that, that's all on the front. I know a lot about motorcycle gangs. Obviously, I'm a vision problem. I never rode with one or nothing, but I've met some guys over the years from being down at the strip clubs and stuff. They own, the majority of the strip clubs here in town are owned by HA, and my neighbor was a member of one called the Rock Machine, and the Rock Machine and the HA have been blood enemies since the 1990s, late 80s, early 1990s, and there was a huge territorial dispute back in the 90s in Quebec here in Canada, and two of those groups literally mowed each other down for a couple of years. Quebec nearly got burned to the ground, like that's a pretty large city, and there was so many bombings and vehicle fires and clubhouses getting firebombed and stuff back in the 90s. They had a state of emergency declared back in the 1990s, and police, federal police had their hands kind of tied because we don't have anything in Canada like the RICO Act, so they were able, we've got organized crime laws and stuff, but we don't have anything like the RICO Act where they can build a past, present, and future crime portfolio, I guess, on these groups. So, you know, pinning down a whole club under a RICO Act or under a RICO charge, that doesn't happen here in Canada. So they brought in some laws in Quebec back in the early 1990s to try and deal with some of these groups, and as far as I know, the leader of the HA, Mum Boucher or Maurice Boucher, they used to call him Mum because that's what his response to law enforcement was, Mum, Mum's the word, right? You don't say nothing, you don't know nothing, Mum. So he picked up that name back in the 70s, I believe it was, Maurice Boucher, and he started calling him Mum Boucher, and he was the leader of the entire Hell's A... He got locked up back in the mid-90s, I think it was. I did some really historical research into biker gangs because I always found the culture interesting, but it was never something that, you know, it was more from an educational perspective than it was, you know, wanting to know about criminal enterprises, but yeah, I got my finger on the pulse when it comes to gangs and stuff, and HA have been here for, you know, 30 years here in Newfoundland, but they were the only one, you know, here on the East Coast anyway, out in central Newfoundland, there's an outlaws chapter, and so they've basically stayed out of each other's way because, I mean, it's a five-hour drive from here to central, but back a few years ago, the HA's decided they want to have a presence in central Newfoundland as well, so there was shootouts and whatnot in central between the outlaws and the Hell's Angels who've been blood enemies for years as well, but then what happened in the last couple of years, this other group, the Rock Machine, who originally came from Quebec, started to decide they wanted to have a presence in Newfoundland, so they recruited some big muscle type guys like my next door neighbor, for instance, to do dirty work for them, and that's basically what was causing all the blow up here in this neighborhood, like the shootings and stuff like that, like I don't really talk about a lot of it, but one of the incidents, other than the vehicle exploding in my neighbor's driveway, a guy walked up on the house at three o'clock in the afternoon one day, and he unloaded two full clips, he pulled out two handguns and pointed them at the house, and unloaded both of them like 20 shots or something, and then he backed up about 20 feet, and he stood right at the very bottom of my driveway, right behind where my quad is parked, and he pulled out another clip and reloaded one of the guns and fired another 10 shots at the house, so it was literally 30 bullets in broad daylight, fired at my neighbor's house like back in April. Sounds like they don't mess around at all there. On one side, the Allie Angels were on the other, right on St. Catherine Street, right in the daytime. Yeah, in the 90s, yeah. It got out of hand. Just in the middle of something, it was just good morning, George, and good morning, girl. I've been listening to you guys talking, but I gotta get back to what I was doing, but I just wanted to mention that. Another thing I wanted to mention, they don't wear their patches now in Montreal. I guess because in Montreal, they forbid that. I don't know if you, they're all gonna probably know more about that. Oh, they also had a Hell Angels prison here in Quebec, and a funny thing, one of them took off and a helicopter landed there and took a few of them away, and the guards, they were trying to shoot the helicopter down this. None of them hit the helicopter. They were very bad. I guess they weren't very good at shooting or something, but they all missed the helicopter. It's a funny thing here. You know, it's just like a two separate systems here. I'm sure the Hell Angels prison's a lot nicer than a regular prison, that's for sure. Anyway, I'll let you guys continue. They'll be one of you. It's crazy that you mention that because I remember hearing about that incident, but back in the early 90s, there was a difficult time. The organized crime from the biker gangs under control because they had like 45% of the police department around the HA's payroll. Well, I know that, yeah, that's for sure. I mean, they helped them more. They were actually working with them. You know how it works with the stuff and the massage, powders, all the script joints, all the way from one side of Montreal to the other. They own it, Paul. That's the thing, see. This is why it got so rough in my neighborhood because you had HA's that were being ripped off and you had Rock Machine who were doing it and my neighbor was Rock Machine. And I can say this now because, I mean, he's dead and gone, but like you say, and what killed him was Crazy Boys because it had nothing to do with what he was into. Absolutely nothing. I mean, here these guys are ripping off HA's the past like bunch of months now. I mean, they were hired to guard a cigarette truck that had come in from the mainland, contraband, you know, reservation cigarettes. Apparently it was a tractor trailer load worth about 800 grand. And when dude came back with a big rig to hook up to the trailer the next morning, he found the two doors open on the back of the trailer and it was completely cleaned out and the boys were gone. So that's what led to the vehicle explosions and the shootouts and all that stuff. But what killed him like a week and a half ago was nothing to do with any of that stuff. Apparently he was sleeping with a dude's chick and dude found out about it and showed up to the house the night before and pulled a knife on my neighbor. Not my house next door, this is in the other end of town. He was at the chick's house and her boyfriend came with a knife and my next door neighbor, he was a big dude. I mean 6'4", probably 250, 260 pounds of muscle. He was a giant dude. And so her boyfriend showed up with the knife and my neighbor just plucked, took the knife out of his hand and beat him senseless. And dude came back the next morning with a shotgun and boom, that was the end of my next door neighbor. So it literally had nothing to do with the gangs or the dirt they were doing or any of that stuff, man. He just banged the wrong dude's chick. That will do it. Were they both members of the club? No, dude that killed him had no affiliations whatsoever. This guy that I actually knew since I'm about, oh man, 19 or 20. I met him, he was friends with my group of friends when we were teenagers from the time we were like 15 till the time we were 20. I mean I'm still friends with some of the guys but I hadn't seen the guy that did the shooting in, oh Jesus, 20 years. I suppose you had 20 years since I'm like 25, I guess. I ever laid eyes on him but back in the day, I mean he was always a loudmouth but I never pegged him for someone to pull a shotgun and actually fire it. Well, you never know what people do when they get pissed. Yeah, right. I think you hear a strange question. Your town, how much the population of your town and what's the population of the different ones? The population here in town is just under 400,000 in like the city of St. John's, Mount Pearl, the surrounding area like the Avalon Peninsula. That's the most densely populated area in the province and in the province itself, we got just over 500,000 in all of Newfoundland and this is, we're an island but this is a massive chunk of land. I mean, you're looking at, to drive where I am in St. John's to the other side of the island in Corner Brook, you're looking at 10 to 12 hours to drive there and if you wanna drive up to the northern peninsula, the part that sticks up on top of the island, you're looking at another 10 or 12 hours to drive up there so you could literally travel around this province for days without leaving the province in the same thing twice but a lot of Newfoundland is just timber forest. We've got a lot of huge amount of forestry here in the island and it's not really overly developed as forestry because you have to ship everything. You know, everything had to be shipped to the mainland, you know, for processing and stuff like that so forestry is not a huge industry here despite the fact that we got tons of this.

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