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So I don't know if you have any experience with this or this is something that you're going to try out there. But and I'm also curious, what is this like a 40 meter loop or a large loop or what are you building? Well, first of all, yes, I have heard that many times and I'm sure that some people have had that experience. I consider it to be pure bovine scotology. If you asked me personally, I've built over a hundred loops, 80 meter at 160. This will be an 80 meter loop and they work very well as transmit antennas. As a matter of fact, better than any other antenna I have ever used on transmit, say they directional antenna, such as a beam, that type of thing. So, yeah, it's an extremely good antenna for transmit as far as I'm concerned and exceptional on a receiver. This is actually what I did was I bought everything to build a 106 meter loop, the bow of the whole 9 yards. And when I get my new place, I'm going to put that up. In the meantime, I wanted to use a Larry's place and I found out.