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And this is something that probably sits maybe about four or five feet above the ground. So to me it doesn't seem to be that efficient. It would be probably good for HOA or something where you're really good. But you know it comes down to whatever works for you, whatever makes contacts, I think that's good. So you can't really say there's a right or a wrong for an antenna because if it's something that you can put up and you have space for it and you make contacts, you know, more power to you, I think that's all that's important. So you know it doesn't matter if it's the most efficient and we're all to be making contacts and you're happy, then I think it's good. Anyway those are my comments back to you, WV6, BJN and then Secliche. Oh absolutely and I think that's the bottom line. It works for you, that's the big deal.