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This is M7BYD. If I may make a comment to the gentleman that just was talking about the various levels. When you think about it, it's all paid for individually. The links, the repeaters, etc. are not commercial. It's called amateur radio for a reason. It would be fantastic if it could all have the same level and we aspire to be equal. But it's called amateur radio for a reason because that's exactly what it is. So to criticise those who spend some time in their roles as people who look after the repeaters because it isn't exactly right is being over critical. So that's just my comment. M7BYD standing by. When you have really noisy background you can hear other stations but the volume on your radio and your voice is not the same. So you can hear the sound of the radio. So the volume on your car will not allow you to hear the lower deviation. This is the point. It's supposed to be for amateur radio and emergency use. This is what the repeaters are also there for. And most people do tune radios. It's not a criticism because we're amateurs. We are professionals. And that's part of the whole thing. We do have the equipment. You have one KCD deviation, the other guy is at 15 KCD deviation and you're driving around in the car. The other guy is blowing the ear drums out and the other guy you can hardly hear because he's a whisper. This is the difference. So when you all get to approximately the same level then we're doing good because around here most people run about the same level. This is the whole idea. So we're able to hear. It's not the fact that we're amateurs that we can be all, when we do all over the deviation it's up to people who run the repeaters to talk to the people that are on there. Just like I mentioned the V-7, he might not know that we are not running metal band FM repeaters. We are running white band FM repeaters. So that is the reason why I mentioned that to him. So he can get it adjusted. It's not very hard. The idea is it's usually the equipment is like I know the guy that sets up ours. It's set up right to the money and everybody going into it, if I listen on his output from his QTH right now into the repeater that I'm talking through which is going back into his house, it says all set up to operate correctly and that's the point. In the case of an emergency somebody with next to nothing deviation can hardly be heard and that could be he's the most critical station that we need to hear. And that's all I have to say. We're not amateurs. We all have the ability to turn knobs on the test things. 7-3, V-A-3, V-Clear. Running to your station. You're absolutely right. Listen DMR, those people really have deviation problems. Oh yeah, DMR, that's another one. You get to the point where they're very well so loud that it sounds horrible and when you get the guys with the lower deviation or lower audio level and they sound real good. Believe me I know that. I have a DMR radio myself and yeah, it's too bad. It makes it very difficult. Like I say, if you're driving around in the car and you're trying to have a conversation, you turn up the knob for one guy, you turn it down for the other one. It's nice when you got the FM radio going and you're listening to music or broadcasting, you can go from one station to another and they're all the same. This is what the hobby was and it was at the beginning. 60 plus years ago we were the people who were called an amateur but we started it all off. We were the people that did all the innovations and everything like that at the beginning so being professional in amateur radio is a pat on the back. It's where we're supposed to be. Otherwise, let's go back to being CPers.