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Okay, now I understand the prices have come down on it, but it's still, we'd consider it cost the equipment in particular, it's still an expensive option. Okay, the other station, I copied VE3 Oscar uniform, Papa. Don't find that call sound when I look at that one. So, correct me if I'm wrong. Introduce yourself, this is the RV radio network, Echolek. That must be known Echolek. And we're on here every Thursday, you day at 8 p.m. since full time. So, tell us a little bit about yourself. Over to you from K4 HM.