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using the new channel we created for users of like the echolink system and do drop-in and stuff. It's channel 8 on the HRS side it's called off-net. Basically it's a channel that's not going to be connected to any RS like for do drop-in or any of that stuff and that's channel 8 and it was especially created for our group to use as a just a general talk all day, rag-shoe kind of channel. You know I know at this point nationwide is not overly crowded right but for the sake of just keeping everything consistent that's the channel that was created for our use. Channel 8 HRS off-net so yeah if you want to try encouraging people to go there that's where I've been encouraging people to go you know for a rag-shoe you know monitoring all that stuff because there's going to be a lot of us around 20