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is that five is if we need to convert this room into a bedroom that is for some time well into the future if we're not ambulatory enough to get upstairs. So as far as ham stuff we did a VE test testity. We had seven people with just two rooms and we got through it very quickly. One from China and one from Kazakhstan, one from India. Several people from offshore and everybody passed which is great. Can't you seven P.I.H back to that? Alright congratulations on seven new hands. That's fantastic. Now I know one of you V.E.s tells them about the first contact award, right Bill? I know about the first contact award that you get when you first get your ham device.