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You know, I have never owned mesh. I moved to California. It was the end of my motorcycle riding. And so, you know, living up in Oregon, you really didn't need lightweight gear too often to ride. So, what temperature you sit in at that mesh is uncomfortable. It was 85... Well, yesterday coming home, it was 95 degrees. And fortunately, it wasn't as much stop and go, but we had stop and go traffic, and it's a 1300... This morning, and it's a 1300cc engine, so I spent way too much of the morning with the heat coming off the engine, hitting me. Nothing worse than riding a motorcycle through heavy stoplight after stoplight after stoplight. Exhaust fumes and everybody else's heat radiating.