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are kind of really into like a couple three of the aspects of ham radio. But there are literally a thousand different things you can do in ham radio. Some people are never on the air. They just build things. They build radios and stuff and do electronics. And they make something and that's enough. If they get on the air with it, it's just to test it to make sure it works. And there are some people who are appliance ham, which it's like a, what do you call it, to denigrate people who just buy things and go on the air with them. But what other aspect of American life does anyone ever make a criticism of that? Like of course we buy things and use things. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. If someone just wants to buy radio and get on the air and talk and the local repeater, that is absolutely valid. It's what I'm doing right now.

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