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This is also the same person who knew that I had trouble drumming on a song I recorded, what was it, about 15, 16 years ago. Because the rhythm guitarist was all wonky and he said, come into my kitchen, handed me a bottle of Le Bon and said drink. And when I was toast enough, he said alright, let's go back and play drums and I laid it down in one take. So that's the kind of producer he is. He understands what needs to be done.