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First started but it was you know I must have been 9 or 10 years old is is when I think I first was became interested and I listened to Morse code training tapes from a RRL I got one from my uncle who had gotten his hand license and passed that down to me and I just didn't have the discipline to stick with it So I would pick it up every once in a while and put it back put it down and pick it up and put it down but At some point I actually got a set of vinyl records that were Morse code training records And I can't remember if they were 78. I don't think they were He's no any I Don't know what that is