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mixing down to it, but I've never had my hands on it or heard it. For me, it was cassettes and then it was a mini-disc. I had a mini-disc recorder for a number of years. And before that, of course, it was cassettes and you'd sit there with your finger on pause for ages just waiting for your local DJ to play whatever you were going to try and record. Alright, thanks Mark. We'll be back next week and hope you join us. KG0BP. Chris, if you're still with us, anything else for the next? KG0BP. All kinds of things coming up. I studied for my ham licenses a number of different times and I can't remember exactly when I...