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I've been like Ron, I can relate to some of that stuff that he said there and others that have commented. So, been around for a day or two. Anyways, back to Ned, thanks for calling it there. Seven trees. All right, thanks for joining us, Randy V5RJM, the 3RWJ in the net. Glad you found us. And don't worry, it does get more interesting than this. Usually we have a topic. Tonight we just happen to have no specific topic, but usually it's a little more interesting. We have more of a discussion going. So I hope you come back next week or some future week. And really quick, I'm curious about the CW78 you mentioned. Do you remember who put those out? Would that have been ARRL or maybe the.