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And the point here is that he is also from Los Angeles originally, so I thought that was pretty cool. Although I do need to triple check because he is useful with Matt and some of the YDI down in Portland decades ago and can live there. So he may have done something on the radio, but I don't think he has. And actually speaking of that, we are for Ken's birthday in September, so that's kind of coming up. We'll be headed out to, I can't remember what Kevin Lee picked at this time. We're going out to the middle of nowhere and yes, we'll definitely be taking, Matt always takes his H.S. station and a huge dipole setup, so that's fun. Absolutely no noise out there. And yeah, back to you Jack, thanks again. This is AS of an A-ZP. Alright, yeah, totally forgot that Madeline was working the go to station there for a while. Hey, that's fantastic. Alright, and good job, Ken. Alright, making a contact.