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and I have that connection in the Echo Link, and I use noise cancelling headset, and so while the X-Y-O is driving down the road, I'm connected in and using a radio, and so it'll work really good, and I have a good connection between the SL sites, too, so it just goes right from one to the other, so that's what I do. And I have an HF station, I have ICOM, and it can't work, and all that, but I find it from my own pleasure that Voice of IP is the best thing to do, and the other thing I want to say is because of earlier comment, don't worry, be happy, get to the Hawaiian state, so just keep that in mind, don't worry, be happy, K6, be healed.