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Hello, my name is Graham. I've never ever used a cage with any of my dogs. However, if you've got one that needs that time out, it's worth your investment. And you can put them in there, you can shut the door, it's their bed zone. And it's time out and they will go to sleep. And then you can open it up and they come out. I know a lot of people that use them. I've not needed two. That's just pure luck, I think. And each Labrador has its own personality. As you know, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. And all of mine have been quite headstrong. But I've always had two. So the older ones always taught the younger one. I'm going to confess something here that I'm really ashamed of. That up until recently it's changed. But Archie, for the first six years of his life, is the first dog that I have never ever been able to lead train. Every other dog I've had, they walk close without a lead. Just above it. I can keep him close, take the lead off, he will stay by my side until I let him go. Archie, absolute pure D*** head. Until I got Chester. And now all of a sudden he's become this mature, wonderful dog. And walks on the lead perfectly next to me while Chester is still trying to pull and be a pain. So yeah, Chester off the lead, stay close, he's next to me. Absolutely no problem at all, which is what I want for working because he won't be on a lead. And Archie's suddenly become lead dependent. So it's finding out what works best for you. And I know a lot of people will use a cage in the corner, in the front room or in the kitchen or wherever. When they want that dog to go to sleep and at night time the dog goes in, they get used to it and they go to sleep. So if that's the way your dog works, use it. Not something I use, not something I ever want to use, but I know that it works for some people. And that's the thing, it's what works for you and what works best for your dog. Back to you Glenn.