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The things is, you know, I was listening to a podcast on tech and they were talking about another podcast that they were sponsoring on-hand radio. And so I started listening to that, decided I wanted to try that. So I got the questions and answers in print form. And I studied it for about a week or two and then came back and signed up for a test. But it was one of these, it was a Saturday course. I started about eight, nine o'clock in the morning. We had three, four hours of class where they went over the test and then at the end of it we took the test and then I passed.