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He said to me and I got in contact with this awesome guy named Dave who was a V.E. But he was also an employee, a regional guy for Industry Canada at the time. So he came to my house and he gave me the exam and I passed. And he said, now what do you want your call sign to be? I said, well I didn't know I had a choice. He said, well you get a couple options. You can pick a primary and a couple of backups and you will see which one you get. I said, well I've been transmitting his V01 UKZ for a month now. Everyone knows me as V01 UKZ. So I may as well try to get that one. And I tried and I did. So yeah, I was a renegade as well. Not intentionally like Kevin, the badass. But I did as well for like almost a month. And when I got my license it was all good. Nobody really knew not many people.