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Technician, Technician Plus, another six actually, because then you had general, extra advance. I wanted my technician, because at the time I really was fascinated with UHF and VHF and everything else. And so I got that fairly quickly. I think it took me about six weeks to get that, as soon as I got the book. And that wasn't a bad test to start off with. And I did several years of just VHF, UHF, Tech Nation. A lot of packet radio, that's what I was into. How many stations can I connect and how far out across the country can I get, all on VHF? And then that's also what got me into, that's also got me into computers at the same time because I started off with a dummy load with a TNC. What was doing with that electronics packet?

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