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This particular cone the average size is 17 inches and I Trowned a guy that custom made them and They stand out 22 inches and it's a cone and it's metal and it's very slick so Every time they go up the pole and they get to the cone to go around the circles because it can't get any higher They get at the same time when they try to reach out and grab that thing Only the best of the best of the best squirtles can get to that point and when they grab hold they can't get a hold of anything And they fall to the ground So those things you know up around five and a half feet in the air And then I measured the pole to make sure it was at least 12 feet away from any tree or above More than 12 feet. You know that kind of thing And so and it's working I've they've been trying all morning to get It's that food and they just have many will do it. So I might have solved the problem