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Michigan so it might have been the same guy you're talking about. Yes I remembered he was kind of like this he always smiled and he said I I I'm not gonna be satisfied until I get lots of them in there and yes I do remember the long hours that's funny yeah that was before like do drop in had a multitude of connections like where they connect to other nets so it was almost like a big 80 meter net that's kind of how I thought of it because 80 meter nets go forever the same way they was doing it on do drop in on echoing and yes one thing that was always fascinating to me was that they call you back and at first I wasn't ready for it right there was a first few time those very rusty at the fact that they call you back so out of nowhere I'd hear my own call sign coming back right oh look at me and I can't and in another chance and then another chance and yeah people text on the screen