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over the years, met a lot of people because of a net or just being on the air and meeting up with them. Let me eat by a second. So I think Bill and Dero could tell their story even better than I could because I'm not sure when they'll call a bunged net. Actually, if it took off from that net or if I'm just getting a little confused because there's been so many years ago, but I do know that Bill used to check in when Don would run his net. And I felt bad for Don because I knew his health issues that he had. And I said, Don, I'm not complaining about the net. You do a phenomenal job with it. But you run this thing from early in the morning and he'd run it to like a minute.