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and everything else and of course they have power went down and how to operate and you know in the field and they make immersion content and everything else but of course now it's a contest and if you go members of the public wanting to come up and ask you know any kind of questions and interested in the radio communication side of things if you're a serious contester you'll just weave them away and say I'm busy, I'm busy, well we... of course many people aren't serious contesters, they do it for fun and I'm sure they'd be very happy to speak to any in the public that want to pop along and inquire just what is it you're doing there and that's always the fun part to the hobby when people see it and they get it so it's always good, always good. Anyway Mark thanks again for being with me through it back to you and they see if you're still there. Like I say don't have you passed it back to me earlier or just dropped out but there we go I was gonna throw it back to you and let's do that KCAF-KV back to you sir you