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at the ElmerNet. We also have In The Shack, which is a video presentation thing we do on the second and fourth Wednesday at 7.30 in its honor Zoom room. And that's a subject by Greg Kale 60H. And you can ask your question there. So a lot of resources if you need to understand that. Yeah, in addition to all those resources, there is a presentation video on YouTube. Our product for the club for W6EK SFARC on YouTube. And we had a presentation on both PODA and SODA. All the details, how to do it, all that kind of stuff. I recommend.