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CVM, back to the net. All right, well, it sounds like he had that old ham inquiry gleam in his eye. Now does he have any past military experience where he may have been using radios out in the field or in command centers or has he have any involvement in his past with radios of any kind? Do you know, I mean other than commercial radios listening to the top 40, that kind of thing? You know, he hasn't. He always thought this is my CB radio and stuff that I had in my trucks were kind of goofy. And I was on the first person in my entire family, both my mother's side and dad's side, to join the military since World War II, where both of my grandfather's had served. So I have no military really background in my family prior to me. And it doesn't look like my kids.