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Okay Peter, well you know the first 25 years of being in this hobby I never missed field day and we got together same plan we did it out to the airport for many years and it was just fun watching the planes fly in and out all the gliders there's a lot of gliders out there at the airport in Ionia so it was a good app a great atmosphere we ran a 3-alpha and two phone stations and one CW and there's only two of us CW operators and and Tim said well how do we make sure that they don't run you know try to run phone on our CW station when we're not because there's only two of us and as you know when you